James has worked in software since the 1990s, when TDD was something you studied but never did and Agile and Lean were words you used to describe athletes. He learnt the hard way about Agile, Lean and Devops in a startup for 9 years before learning from much cleverer people as a consultant at Thoughtworks for 5 years before moving back into the Product company world. He is now enjoying scaling the organisation at IMMO as VP Engineering.